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		<title>By: Nexeus Fatale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nexeus Fatale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really good points made Wiz.  Before I respond, let me say that I do like the work that SLCN.tv does.

In my opinion, I feel that creating a brand with SL in the name is putting you in jeopardy of playing at the rules of someone else.  If there&#039;s anything that I think is foolish its that (and I call myself a fool because I have notes of so many &quot;Second Life blah&quot; ideas written down).

With that aside, remember that Linden Lab has a few guidelines on using SL in the name.  So, something like SLCN may be okay or not.  While I understand people have put time and money into their brand, I also feel that Linden Lab aren&#039;t draconian taskmasters.  Yes, they have taken the trademark from you (which, as I&#039;ve mentioned in a previous post avoids some major confusion and arguments in the community, see SLART), it gives you an opportunity to adjust.

They seem willing and able to talk about the branding issue, my question is, while you have put all this investment in SLCN.tv, how much would it take to adjust or do a name change (as many things do)?

I don&#039;t think that Linden Lab is biting the hand that has fed them because I think that more hands have bit them using the SL brand name.  I think that Linden Lab is FINALLY biting back and taking control over their name before something major happens in the future.  I think it&#039;s a smart move and most business&#039; are not more than several years old (I could be wrong, but how old is SLCN?) In my opinion it&#039;s a great move for change and for the future a great move to position yourself beyond just Second Life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really good points made Wiz.  Before I respond, let me say that I do like the work that SLCN.tv does.</p>
<p>In my opinion, I feel that creating a brand with SL in the name is putting you in jeopardy of playing at the rules of someone else.  If there&#8217;s anything that I think is foolish its that (and I call myself a fool because I have notes of so many &#8220;Second Life blah&#8221; ideas written down).</p>
<p>With that aside, remember that Linden Lab has a few guidelines on using SL in the name.  So, something like SLCN may be okay or not.  While I understand people have put time and money into their brand, I also feel that Linden Lab aren&#8217;t draconian taskmasters.  Yes, they have taken the trademark from you (which, as I&#8217;ve mentioned in a previous post avoids some major confusion and arguments in the community, see SLART), it gives you an opportunity to adjust.</p>
<p>They seem willing and able to talk about the branding issue, my question is, while you have put all this investment in SLCN.tv, how much would it take to adjust or do a name change (as many things do)?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that Linden Lab is biting the hand that has fed them because I think that more hands have bit them using the SL brand name.  I think that Linden Lab is FINALLY biting back and taking control over their name before something major happens in the future.  I think it&#8217;s a smart move and most business&#8217; are not more than several years old (I could be wrong, but how old is SLCN?) In my opinion it&#8217;s a great move for change and for the future a great move to position yourself beyond just Second Life.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiz Nordberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiz Nordberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a complex issue.  I agree completely that the strike is a pointless distraction.  Worse, it may weaken any case those involved have, as the blogger strike is full of specious arguments and disorganized opinion.

However, you are missing some important points about this policy change.  Linden Lab is not merely attempting to enforce their Second Life trademark.  Nobody will dispute that they should be entitled to trademark protection for their products and anyone who uses the words &quot;Second Life&quot; should respect Linden Lab property.

But, consider that for the last 5 years, the residents of Second Life, not primarily Linden Labs, have referred to Second Life as &quot;SL&quot; (just as they refer to Real Life as RL).  Linden Lab did not, until June of last year, apply for an &quot;intent to use&quot; on &quot;SL&quot;, a mark they (by their very application class 1B) claim that they have not yet used in their business.  Just because there is a product &quot;Second Life&quot; does not instantly grant protection to its abbreviation (just as Dow Jones cannot make a blanket claim that businesses with DJ in their title are infringing).  Then, by using a adhesion contract (their ToS) are prohibiting any of their residents from registering a business name or trademark which &quot;contains&quot; the two letters SL.

It would be different if they had introduced this five years ago and made it clear that the letters SL were theirs under license.  But, they did not.  In fact, they publicly encouraged companies like SLBoutique, SLExchange, SLNN, CNN&#039;s SL i-Reports and others while never, ever mentioning any possible claim to their name and businesses, nor registering their intent with the US Trademark office.  Quite the contrary, the continual PR machine at Linden Lab has emphasized their unique IP policies which assure residents maintain ownership of their own creations, fueling an unprecedented investment of resident time with significant benefits to Linden Lab.

So now, thousands of businesses have invested time and money in those brands, with a healthy pat of approval from Linden Lab.  We ourselves have invested over USD$200K in the SLCN.TV brand, have released DVDs and credited excerpts of our footage has appeared on BBC television as well as ABC News and thousands of other places.  By most trademark lawyer&#039;s assessments (and we have paid a few for their opinions) there is a good chance that the US trademark office would not consider that there would be any possible confusion between SLCN.TV (a company that produces video content) and the Second Life software platform or any related Linden Lab product.

Now, as a business, how do we (or any such business) protect our product and our investment made up to this time?

Since we are disallowed (by their ToS) from protecting our own investment, we now have no protection against anyone who attempts to claim they are us, to steal our brand and use it for their own.  We cannot even *attempt* to because Linden Lab has prohibited us by contract for engaging the very laws they are using to protect themselves.

It takes our significant investment and reduces the past two years of time and effort to a value of zero.  Meanwhile, 100% of our efforts have gone into providing products and services which serve Linden Labs interests, promote their product, and assist their residents.

Sure, we have a personal stake in this, and you may think that we are foolish for investing such money in a platform like Second Life.  But, to me it is no different than a company that invests money creating a reputation in Microsoft after market-products and suddenly would face having their IP co-opted by Microsoft because their products are &quot;related to Microsoft Word&quot;.

Exactly how these issues will work out legally is a matter of opinion.  But one thing is certain, they are biting the hand that feeds them and it causes the few truly committed after-market companies to consider whether they should have been so supportive of the Second Life platform to begin with.   Many many of our peers, entirely loyal to Linden Lab until now, have suddenly been turning greater attention to other worlds and other opportunities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a complex issue.  I agree completely that the strike is a pointless distraction.  Worse, it may weaken any case those involved have, as the blogger strike is full of specious arguments and disorganized opinion.</p>
<p>However, you are missing some important points about this policy change.  Linden Lab is not merely attempting to enforce their Second Life trademark.  Nobody will dispute that they should be entitled to trademark protection for their products and anyone who uses the words &#8220;Second Life&#8221; should respect Linden Lab property.</p>
<p>But, consider that for the last 5 years, the residents of Second Life, not primarily Linden Labs, have referred to Second Life as &#8220;SL&#8221; (just as they refer to Real Life as RL).  Linden Lab did not, until June of last year, apply for an &#8220;intent to use&#8221; on &#8220;SL&#8221;, a mark they (by their very application class 1B) claim that they have not yet used in their business.  Just because there is a product &#8220;Second Life&#8221; does not instantly grant protection to its abbreviation (just as Dow Jones cannot make a blanket claim that businesses with DJ in their title are infringing).  Then, by using a adhesion contract (their ToS) are prohibiting any of their residents from registering a business name or trademark which &#8220;contains&#8221; the two letters SL.</p>
<p>It would be different if they had introduced this five years ago and made it clear that the letters SL were theirs under license.  But, they did not.  In fact, they publicly encouraged companies like SLBoutique, SLExchange, SLNN, CNN&#8217;s SL i-Reports and others while never, ever mentioning any possible claim to their name and businesses, nor registering their intent with the US Trademark office.  Quite the contrary, the continual PR machine at Linden Lab has emphasized their unique IP policies which assure residents maintain ownership of their own creations, fueling an unprecedented investment of resident time with significant benefits to Linden Lab.</p>
<p>So now, thousands of businesses have invested time and money in those brands, with a healthy pat of approval from Linden Lab.  We ourselves have invested over USD$200K in the SLCN.TV brand, have released DVDs and credited excerpts of our footage has appeared on BBC television as well as ABC News and thousands of other places.  By most trademark lawyer&#8217;s assessments (and we have paid a few for their opinions) there is a good chance that the US trademark office would not consider that there would be any possible confusion between SLCN.TV (a company that produces video content) and the Second Life software platform or any related Linden Lab product.</p>
<p>Now, as a business, how do we (or any such business) protect our product and our investment made up to this time?</p>
<p>Since we are disallowed (by their ToS) from protecting our own investment, we now have no protection against anyone who attempts to claim they are us, to steal our brand and use it for their own.  We cannot even *attempt* to because Linden Lab has prohibited us by contract for engaging the very laws they are using to protect themselves.</p>
<p>It takes our significant investment and reduces the past two years of time and effort to a value of zero.  Meanwhile, 100% of our efforts have gone into providing products and services which serve Linden Labs interests, promote their product, and assist their residents.</p>
<p>Sure, we have a personal stake in this, and you may think that we are foolish for investing such money in a platform like Second Life.  But, to me it is no different than a company that invests money creating a reputation in Microsoft after market-products and suddenly would face having their IP co-opted by Microsoft because their products are &#8220;related to Microsoft Word&#8221;.</p>
<p>Exactly how these issues will work out legally is a matter of opinion.  But one thing is certain, they are biting the hand that feeds them and it causes the few truly committed after-market companies to consider whether they should have been so supportive of the Second Life platform to begin with.   Many many of our peers, entirely loyal to Linden Lab until now, have suddenly been turning greater attention to other worlds and other opportunities.</p>
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		<title>By: Cherowolf Redgrave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherowolf Redgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  Thank you.</description>
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